Medical Truth Podcast
Medical Truth Podcast
The Hidden Forces Behind Climate Engineering An Insightful Discussion with Jim Lee
Unlock the mysteries behind the weather patterns that shape our world and the scientific attempts to control them. Investigative journalist Jim Lee joins host James Egidio on a journey through the complex and often misunderstood realm of geoengineering. Together, we dissect the ambitious strategies aimed at local weather control and global climate interventions, from cloud condensation mechanics to solar radiation modification. We confront the historical milestones that have set the stage for today's climate modification discussions, delving into the environmental and societal repercussions of these controversial technologies.
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James Egidio:Welcome to the Medical Truth Podcast. My name is James Egidio. Your host, my guest, is a devoted investigative journalist reporting the truth about geoengineering, weather modification and pollution in an easy to understand and relatable way. He testified at the EPA's hearing on aviation pollution in August of 2015, lectured at Ed Griffith's conference Global Warming an inconvenient lie in December of 2016, interviewed scientists at the American Meteorological Society's 21st conference on planned and inadvertent weather modification in 2018, and his research has been referenced on many prominent websites, including the comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty Organization, canadian Geophysical Union, mit, harvard and the United Nations. His website, climateviewercom, and climateviewernews feature thousands of references, timeline events and newspapers and journals. You can monitor live weather, satellites, earthquakes, fires and more on his website in real time and view maps only found on climate viewer maps. It is a pleasure to have on the Medical Truth Podcast my guest, mr Jim Lee. Jim, welcome to the Medical Truth Podcast, welcome.
Jim Lee:Jim, thanks for having me.
James Egidio:Absolutely Just for the listeners and viewers of the Medical Truth Podcast, a little bit about who you are and what you do.
Jim Lee:I'm a 47-year-old half-white, half-pony male from Sumter, south Carolina. I've been married 25 years. I have a 14-year-old and a 7-year-old daughter. My 14-year-old daughter has an orange belt and makes martial arts because daddy builds them that way. I live in the finest double-wide ever paid for by the Illuminati and I'm just a happy camper who was a Boy Scout. I like to do my good turn daily and because of the birth of my children, I no longer can sit around and play video games. I talk about sciencey, nerdy things and how they affect the health of everybody on the planet.
James Egidio:So, from what I understand, you're an investigative journalist and you're primary focus I noticed on your website, which is climateviewercom, has been all about geoengineering and about harps, weather, harps, antennas. But let's today, in this particular episode, talk about geoengineering and what is geoengineering?
Jim Lee:So geoengineering is a term that gets used all-encompassing anything that has to do with weather manipulation. By many people it's a poorly used word. Some people refer to chemtrails as geoengineering, but some people refer to cloud seeding projects as geoengineering. I break it up into three categories. There's weather modification space weather modification because, just like weather modification, there is a thing called space weather and the intention of ionosphere heaters and sounding rockets is to modify space weather. And then there's geoengineering.
Jim Lee:Geoengineering is different in that the goal of geoengineering is the abatement of the hoax that is CO2-based global warming, that the earth is heating up because dinosaur farts, because dinosaur farts melted methane and that erupted into the sky. They believe it killed the dinosaurs because they drilled some ice up in Antarctica. They believe that now that's going on today, and this is based in something called the clathrate gun hypothesis that methane clathrates, once heated enough, will vent into the atmosphere, causing runaway global warming. That's where the term comes from. Now they've switched to global boiling because global warming wasn't scary enough. But they most often use the generic term climate change, which is dumb, because the climate has always changed, it always will change, it will never stop changing. So, to be real, geoengineering is the attempt by a man to stop the climate from changing, which is monumentally stupid.
Jim Lee:The term geoengineering was first used in 1977 by a man named Cesar A Marchetti and he specifically was talking about CO2 sequestration or CO2 carbon capture, the idea of there's too much CO2 in the atmosphere, we can suck it out of the atmosphere, pump it into the ground, capture it somehow and just remove it from the atmosphere. But in 1991, mount Pinatubo's eruption was observed by a scientist to cool the planet and this made them all go wait a minute. When Mount Pinatubo erupted, it put a lot of sulfur into the stratosphere and because of this sulfur in the stratosphere and the cooling that followed, three I'm going to say Dr Evils at Lawrence Livermore National Lab decided to write a paper about it, and their names were Edward Teller, lowell Wood and Roderick Hyde. Lowell Wood is known by his best friends as Dr Evils. He literally is a weaponier. That's what he does. Edward Teller and Venerent of the Hydrogen Bomb these are the guys.
Jim Lee:So they came up with the idea of stratospheric aerosol injection or solar radiation management. This is if you break geoengineering into two main categories. There is sucking CO2 out of the air or ground based mostly. There's also stuff like biochar bags. We're not going to get into all that Too much for one night. But the other side is solar radiation management. Now, solar radiation management gets confused too, because a lot of people think that it only means one thing. It also has things like micro bubbles in the ocean, marine cloud brightening, the idea of spraying sea salt in the clouds to make them whiter and brighter so they reflect sunlight. Painting rooftops white to reflect sunlight, to negate the heat, the urban heat island effect. So there's many different types of solar geoengineering, which is just the catch all phrase.
Jim Lee:But at the beginning it was called geoengineering. Then they said we're not actually engineering the geo. Geo means earth. Let's call it climate engineering. So it got renamed. Good example the DC geoengineering group, washington DC renamed itself to the Forum for Climate Engineering Assessment, fcea. So this was a big change circa, say, 2012. And then again in 2016-ish, they renamed it again.
Jim Lee:Because engineering is bad. Why? Because cars are engineered and cars break down. We don't want to break the atmosphere. So to frame it perception management wise, mind control wise. That's what framing is just using words for mind control purposes. Let's not call it climate engineering, let's call it climate intervention. So if you look up these terms geoengineering, climate engineering, climate intervention you will find they're all about the same thing. They even try to take it a step further and call it climate restoration. That was a bridge too far and despite all their attempts to rebrand it, we're right back to where we started with Harvard's solar geoengineering program.
Jim Lee:So geoengineering has stood the test of time. That word has rode the storm, and it is the intent. What we're really focusing on tonight, I'm assuming, is the intentional spraying of chemicals in the stratosphere to mimic what volcanoes do, naturally. The problem is that when volcanoes do what they do, there are consequences, and those consequences can be very severe, like changing rainfall patterns worldwide. During certain large eruptions, the Amazon basin almost dried up. That's how much it can change the rainfall. So this leads to the whole geoengineering governance side of things. Who's in charge of this? Who's hands on the thermometer? Who makes the decisions? Because if geoengineering setting the temperature of the earth is to be decided by a group of individuals, who would you trust, james?
James Egidio:No one.
Jim Lee:That's the only sane answer. I don't trust I have never met a politician. I trust I've never met a scientist who, if I told him, hey, man, I know your heart's in the right place, pick seven other scientists and you guys figure it out. I trust that you'll make the right decision. That got us the atom bomb, that got us Wuhan. I am not for crats and to be clear when I say this technocracy was a movement founded in the 1930s with the goal of creating a one world government that is run by the science, by my powers flickering in my house, Thank God for good.
Jim Lee:Battery backups right that they were. Unelected bureaucrats using the scientific method would rule the entire world, based on a monetary system based in energy, carbon taxes, carbon credits, and with full authority to monitor everything. Sensors everywhere, mass surveillance All of that is what we see with the climate agenda, with the health agenda. Don't get me started on who, because who doesn't care about you? The further government gets away from my house, the less it cares about me, and that's always been my sense. I'm a rugged individualist. I'm neither. I'm not a party affiliate. I don't like politicians, even the ones. I wouldn't trust them to hold my child.
James Egidio:Right, I agree. I say that a lot in a lot of podcasts, especially the medical truth podcast, is I try to keep the politics out of this as much as I can.
Jim Lee:It only makes sense.
James Egidio:It does and you mentioned we mentioned four of them main types of geoengineering. Did you mention, I think, two so far, or was it four, Because I have this from your website.
Jim Lee:Yeah, that pretty much covers it. So the two main categories are solar radiation management at the top, and they talk about reflective aerosols, that's stratospheric aerosol injection, clouds eating specifically here they're talking about marine cloud brightening. What's number three? I can't read that. Reflective, that's reflective. Those are satellites in space reflecting things. The World Economic Forum, you can't make this up.
James Egidio:I want to talk about that, but before you go into that, I still want to cover these four types of geoengineering, because I also have the players and the web that's involved with this whole thing that you did a lot of research on. So, we'll start with what we got here now.
Jim Lee:Yeah, I'm on number three right now. So number one can be the chemtrails over your house, the plane emissions, serous clouds, artificial clouds made by planes, or direct injection of chemicals by specially designed planes for the purpose of geoengineering, solar radiation management, stratospheric aerosol injection. Number two could be marine cloud brightening or serous cloud thinning, because that is also known as serous cloud seeding. It's the idea of melting those chemtrails, or plane farts or serous clouds away at night. Number three the World Economic Forum literally made a TikTok video about an MIT researcher who talked about putting a graphene sail at the Lagrange point two, between the sun and the earth to block incoming solar radiation from space. So literally a solar sail like a contact lens for the eyeball, that is, the earth between the sun and the earth, to be out there. That's the idea of number three, or forest forestation as opposed to deforestation, because guess what? Co2 trees love it and they suck it and they put it in the ground and they turn it into oxygen. By the way, they also make rainfall, they make their own clouds. That's why it's called a rain forest, because they actually produce their own cloud seeds. Three is direct air capture. Co2 capture from air plus storage, that's carbon sequestration is another term for it, same with number two, co2 capture from fossil fuels plus storage. There's different versions of that. Some are called like biochar or BEX, and then there's direct air capture, dac, and number one, ocean iron fertilization.
Jim Lee:Russ George actually did this. He was the first official rogue geo engineer. This was called the Hida Salmon Restoration Project and Russ George actually contacted him on Twitter and we had a back and forth great discussion. He explained that basically commercial fishing around the Hida is the island. Commercial fishing boats basically had driven away all the fish for the local inhabitants. So his purpose in dumping iron filings into the ocean was that they produce algae blooms and those algae blooms would bring fish back to the island. That was his claimed purpose of doing it.
Jim Lee:But at the same time, algal blooms from iron fertilization is a geo engineering technique, because algae sucks up CO2 and then hardens and calcifies and falls down to the bottom of the ocean. So it's the same idea as carbon capture and sequestration. So they claim that he was rogue geo engineering and to date he's the only one that I know that's ever done this. But it was a really big to do and of course, nothing ever happened to him. Because, even though geo engineering is illegal, they'll say, oh, he was a bad guy for doing it. But let's study it now and figure out how we could possibly use this for global warming abatement.
James Egidio:Yeah, because you hear a lot of sentiment about chemtrails and geo engineering especially, and I think the first thing that comes to mind to people is chemtrails. Right With that being said, what is the difference between chemtrails and con trails?
Jim Lee:Mostly nothing. To be quite honest, if that is happening in the troposphere, there it's a chemtrail, a con trail, a plain fart, whatever you want to call it. Once it fans out and blocks the sky, it is no longer either. It is a cirrus cloud. This is the part that's lost on everybody, that once ice crystals, which are not just condensation, so the term contrail is counterfactional. They'll say it's just water condensation, nothing to see here. Now the answer you, the question you want to ask back to them when they say that is condensating on what? And it goes back to cloud seeding. It's the same idea as cloud seeding.
Jim Lee:Every cloud needs a seed. In order for a cloud to form, there must be an aerosol, some speck of dust. It's called a cloud condensation nuclei. Without that speck of dust the water has nothing to stick to and without ionization or static electricity, usually in the form of either chemi ions which are generated by friction and static from the back of an engine, or galactic cosmic rays which pour in from outer space. That's how natural clouds are formed, with galactic cosmic rays or just friction from upheaval and storm fronts, all that sort of thing. You need these three things to make a cloud, water vapor, some kind of energy to make them stick to the dust, or there are many different forms of cloud seed, bacteria, molds, alkali metals.
Jim Lee:Typically, aluminum is the most metal in sand all over the earth. More aluminum blows out of the freaking Sahara desert than probably will ever come out of planes. That's just things that people don't take into account when the space shuttle launch. You remember the space shuttle when the solid rocket boosters a single solid rocket booster produced 350 million tons of aluminum oxide per launch. Wow, every time they would launch the space shuttle there's two solid rocket boosters. Some of you watching this may not be old enough to remember the space shuttle. Go look it up on YouTube. But it had two white rockets on the side and a big fuel tank in the middle. Those two solid rocket boosters combined produced was at 700 million tons of sulfur, of aluminum oxide and sulfuric acid, so much so that it would melt the concrete down at my drawing a blank. God, I've been there twice Cape.
James Egidio:Canaveral.
Jim Lee:Cape Canaveral. I went there twice when I was an Air Force Junior ROTC.
James Egidio:Yeah, it's down the street from me, by the way. Cool Pretty much. Not literally, but yeah, it's like 20, 30 miles.
Jim Lee:Go ask the neighbors down there that the acid rain from these launches would literally eat the paint off of cars in neighborhood. It would melt the concrete at the launch pads. So when you're talking about aluminum in the atmosphere, if you're not thinking about rockets, rocket launches, you're not considering a large source of it. But back to just, let's focus on just the planes. Your question is this geoengineering.
Jim Lee:By definition, the intent of geoengineering never was in the troposphere. It was in the stratosphere for a reason because chemicals in the troposphere tend to have a residence time of around, let's say, two weeks to two to four months at the maximum. Okay, because it's very turbulent. Everything's getting mixed around. This troposphere is where we live, where we breathe, where all the weather you've ever experienced is that stuff tends to fall rapidly and rain out. Above that is the stratosphere. The dividing line between the stratosphere and the troposphere is called the tropopause. Now, above the tropopause, it suddenly starts to get warmer really quickly and the atmosphere is much more stable, meaning any of the chemicals that are lofted into the stratosphere. They stay there longer. This is called their residence time. So chemicals in the app and the stratosphere, depending on their size, can have a residence time from two to four years.
James Egidio:Wow.
Jim Lee:So when we see planes making clouds yes, that is, by definition, solar radiation management it could be argued that it was just pollution up till recently, because there's always been planes making clouds that block out the sun. I have newspapers from 1958, the city of Palm Springs in California going toe to toe with the Air Force and the Air Force telling them look, either live with the trails or move the city of Palm Springs, because you're at the intersection of the West Coast. This is where all planes fly through. You're gonna have the sky blocked out with trails. And that was 1958.
Jim Lee:1970, the state of Illinois, new Jersey, sued over smoke pollution of the sky. Air quotes Chemtrails. 1970. They sued the airline industry. Secretary of Transportation, james A Vulp, actually came in to mediate the argument and try to settle it out of court.
Jim Lee:Airline industry decided to redesign their combustors to cut down on particulate emissions that are cloud seeds that create clouds. So this has been a problem forever, since planes started flying the problem. The reason why it's been exacerbated now is because there's been this steady buildup of chemicals in the stratosphere that are slowly making their way back down to Earth. And when we're burning 15 million barrels of jet fuel per day just in America, when there's 130 plus thousand flights per day worldwide. We're getting to the point where what the geo engineers were asking for it's already happening that planes are flying above the tropopause. They are dumping their their nanoparticles of metals and black carbon, graphene, sulfuric acid. It is stratospheric sulfur injection. It is stratospheric aerosol injection. The planes burning fuel is putting nanoparticles of metal into the stratosphere, which is whitening the sky.
Jim Lee:The purpose of geoengineering all along was to whiten the sky, to make it more reflective, the loft reflective particles into the stratosphere, to cut down on incoming solar radiation. The problem is, yes, when planes make clouds, that does cool the planet. That does qualify as geoengineering, as solar radiation management. The problem that they found out in 2001 was that when they grounded all flights for three or four days, the dudes down at Langley Research Center were like wait a minute. The diurnal temperature range greatly widened during this period, meaning if it was 70 degrees during the day, and it normally gets down to 50 degrees at night, during this time it got down to 40 degrees at night A 10 degree difference. So they said something's going on here, and what was going on was those clouds were making a blanket overhead so that when the radiation came in and they went to go back out, it got trapped. It is the greenhouse.
James Egidio:Yeah.
Jim Lee:There's no such thing as a greenhouse gas. There are only greenhouses. Anybody who has a clear plastic or glass greenhouse knows this.
James Egidio:Yeah, jim, how do you explain, for instance, like in this photo, the? I noticed, like during COVID, when things were just came to an abrupt standstill Very few flights. I was in Vegas at the time, living there, and I would notice, on a very clear day, where you would get these trails. That would come from, say, the horizon of, let's say, the southwest part of the valley, where the mountains are, and they would just come right from, almost like from the right, over the horizon of the mountain, across the valley, and you'd see two or three patterns of thick, like stream of plume of smoke or a trail. I called it a chem trail. And then and this was a beautiful day, it was real clear out and then all of a sudden it would just dissipate and the day would turn into a real balmy, almost like a depressing day, like again, that was like blocking the Sun out. And then I've noticed, like where planes just flew and they're supposed to be, I would think, condensation trails, and they dissipate within seconds. So what's the difference between those two?
Jim Lee:So you to get real sciencey on you, it's about ice super saturated regions.
James Egidio:Yeah, but it was like a warm day, it was a spring day.
Jim Lee:So there are these things called radiosons and they're basically weather guys. They attach a balloon into a little radio transmitter which samples the temperature and the relative humidity and the dew point depression and all these things. They have this chart that shows as it gains altitude and where the temperature comes within about four to five degrees of the dew point depression. That is called an ice super saturated region. That is an area high in the sky, typically 24,000 to 40,000 feet. So if you see a plane making a chem trail at 12,000 feet, that is not natural. So it's incumbent on you to do your a little bit of flight tracking, do some research to be able to tell at what altitude am I seeing this plane? What are the current atmospheric conditions? Does it apply to Appleman's chart? Appleman, the Appleman chart's been around since World War II. I'm good friends with a guy named Jeff. He's a meteorologist in the Navy and one of his jobs was literally to throw radiosons off of an aircraft carrier and tell yo, maverick, when you're flying the F-14 Tomcat back to the deck, avoid this area, because you're gonna leave a contrail in the sky and that's gonna point the enemy right back to us. To date, you can actually search this Google AI working with American Airlines to avoid contrail formation. So they've come to this point now where this pollution problem, which has been around forever, they're trying to take advantage of it. When I interviewed the head of the FAA's Aviation Climate Change Research Initiative, who is in charge of the biofuels for contrail control His name is Dr Rangasai Halthory I asked him, when Ulrich Schumann from Germany's DLR that's like their NASA was speaking at the 2010 ICA International Civil Aviation Organization colloquium on aviation climate change, dr Rangasai Halthory, when he said we want less warming, more cooling, contrails, predictable for operational planning. What do you think he meant by that? His response was basically we would like to have more contrail induced cirrus clouds by day and none by night. I'm gonna point directly at the words like to, and go from me to you. The Federal Aviation Administration has a policy in place to figure out how to make more clouds by day and none by night. Why? Because geoengineering, because they cool during the day and they trap heat at night.
Jim Lee:So if you look at, president Biden came out with this solar radiation modification. At least it came out of the White House. I'm sure it didn't come out of his brain. So the solar radiation modification report that came out of the White House basically Obama acolytes who are currently working holding Joe up like weekend at Bernies and they said in there specifically three things. They wanted to study Solar radiation modification, which is a deviation from management, which they've called it forever. They just called it modification. I actually approve because I believe weather modification, space weather modification, solar radiation modification works for me, but it's still it's a deviation, pointing that out because I'm big on semantics.
Jim Lee:Yeah, so they want to study SRM. They want to study MCB, marine Cloud Brightening, and CCT, cirrus Cloud Thinning. Wait a minute now Let me get this straight. The dude from the FAA just said we don't want clouds at night. Ulrich Lohmann and Blaz I just got it backwards Blaz Gasperini, not glass Blaz, glass Can't get it out of my head. No, blaz, blaz Gasperini. They wrote a paper called a Cirrus Cloud Climate Dial. You can look this up, go to scholargooglecom and you can find it A Cirrus Cloud Climate Dial, meaning a way to control the temperature of the planet, geoengineering.
James Egidio:Right.
Jim Lee:Cirrus Cloud. That's what the chemtrails and contrails turn into. I'm right. Okay, for those who are concerned, I'm right, I'm always right, get used to it. Cirrus Cloud Thinning they said that this could be achieved by seeding Cirrus Clouds in high latitude, winters and nighttime seeding. Now, that is highly coincidental. It's more than highly coincidental. There are no coincidences.
Jim Lee:This is a concerted effort to take what has been, up to this point, a pollution problem, a visual pollution problem, the most visual climate change today. Because every single day your weather is being modified. It is geoengineering. It is more so, weather modification, because why? What does the weather guy say every day? It's gonna be partly cloudy today, and what such-and-such temperature? That's weather. So planes change the weather every single day and they geoengineer. They change the temperature of the planet. I'm not gonna say to how it, what degree, because I really don't care. What I care about is the poisonous pollution that's coming out of the tailpipe, the visual effect on the sky and my ability to absorb vitamin D, the chemical effects on atmospheric conditions, rainfall patterns we could go on listing. Alan Robach is a geoengineer and he literally came up with 25 reasons we should not geoengineer.
James Egidio:Yeah, yeah, I was gonna be my next question what chemicals are found in these chemtrails?
Jim Lee:If you go to climateviewercom, slash Cirrus Clouds Matter. I actually I'm a graphics artist. Don't know if you know that about me. I've been an artist since I got my first art scholarship when I was in the fifth grade Thank you very much. And I made a. I was like what's the best way to visualize this? I don't want to make it scary. Periodic table Right, Yay, let's do a periodic table. So I got a periodic table and I literally just color coded all of the metals found in jet exhaust. And this comes from a study. I'm going to pull it up real quick If you don't mind.
James Egidio:Not at all.
Jim Lee:Because I have everything bookmarked within two clicks away Going to climateviewercom, click on site map and then I go to artificial clouds and right there at the top it says the detected metallic particles compounds were all internally mixed with soot particles, so soot is black carbon. That is the cloud seed. So whenever they say condensation trails, it's water condensating on soot, on black carbon. This is important Because we're going to flip the script. If you go, we start talking about military in a little while. We're going to talk about carbon. Black is manufactured, black carbon is burnt stuff. So the detected metallic compounds were internally mixed with soot particles, so they found all of these metals inside the soot.
Jim Lee:The most abundant metals in jet exhaust were chromium, iron, molybdenum, sodium, calcium, aluminum. Also found were vanadium, barium, cobalt, copper, nickel, lead, magnesium, manganese, silicon, titanium and zirconium. And this is from a study in 2016 called Chemical Characterization of Freshly-Emitted Particulate Matter from Aircraft Exhaust Using Single Particle Mass Spectrometry. I have an identical paper from the United States Air Force Research Lab, which found the exact same metals inside the jet fuel, and I have two other papers that find very similar results. Finally, the University of Finland I believe it was did a study where they actually flew through cirrus clouds that were just hanging around. 75% of the cirrus clouds seeds the seeds inside of cirrus clouds were man made metals. So we could literally at this point, just classify stop calling them chemtrails, stop calling them contrails and just say metal clouds Not like actual nanoparticulate metal clouds, because these metals have a cooling effect.
Jim Lee:They're the same thing as a heat sink. They work just like a heat sink. I worked on car stereos. I've seen a heat sink on an amplifier. They exchange heat rapidly, so to go from a very high engine to suddenly freezing liquid. That's where the metals play a role. Also, in a separate paper they took it a step further and they said that the graph, the black carbon particles that contain all these metals, were laminated in graphene. So the external surface of the soot particulate is graphene and on top of that is the sulfur dioxide which, when mixed with water, it goes from SO2 to H2SO4. That's sulfuric acid.
James Egidio:Sulfuric acid yeah, a-a.
Jim Lee:Acid rain, yeah, something nobody talks about anymore. So if the argument that it's a chemical trail, it is. It's a trail of freaking chemicals. Damn, near everything in the planet is a chemical. It is a chemical trail.
Jim Lee:Condensation trail Also true. It is water, because just burning fuels, even the cleanest fuel, if you burn hydrogen they just did a hydrogen-based flight last year Burning but hydrogen, guess what? You're going to make? Water If you go to your car and you will find water dripping out of the tailpipe, because that is a natural component of combustion. So this all mixes together to be condensating on the particulate matter that's left over from improper, not fully burnt fuel and some of these chemicals.
Jim Lee:They'll withstand the temperature of a burning jet engine. That's just the nature of the beast. You have to look at it like that. The dangers of any one of these metals? I don't have to part you on that. What's the dangers of breathing nanoparticles of aluminum? Forget it. Calcium is actually one of the largest ones. In fact, in the geoengineering world, they originally started with sulfur because they wanted to mimic. Oh, before I leave that page, underneath it, on the same page, jet exhaust in the stratosphere. The Indian space organization found evidence of such particles black carbon particles existing up to 18 kilometers in the stratosphere, and there were 10,000 per cubic centimeter.
Jim Lee:Wow 10,000 black carbon particles per cubic centimeter. You think about how big the sky is and then how much bigger it is when you get up to 40,000 feet, because it's just like the layers of an onion. It's smaller in the middle baby, so as you go up in the sky it's going to get bigger. For it to be that concentrated at that altitude, at 18 kilometers in the sky, is insane. And then you think about all the metals that are in each one of those 10,000 particles of black carbon.
Jim Lee:Given the shape and location of these particles, the Indian space organization argued it could only derive from emissions from aviation fuel. Why? Because black carbon from jets has a unique spherical shape to it, as opposed to carbon black, which has it's called a centiform. It's a grape-like structure. So they clearly can recognize spherical black carbon from jet exhaust. We know where this came from and it's in the stratosphere. So the spin lately because they always got to make good propaganda. The scientists have been trying to spin this off lately and you'll see this if you want to Google it space, junk, metal and stratosphere. Just put those terms in there Space, junk, metal and atmosphere. They're trying to blame the buildup of metals in the stratosphere from space junk, falling back and re-entering the atmosphere and burning up as if one or two tin cans a month at the most, compared to 130,000 flights per day. That it's space junk, guys. It's not the chemtrails. Nothing to see here. Calm down, it's just it's mind blowing.
James Egidio:Yeah, it's interesting because you say 130,000 flights per day, but I, to me, it's been more noticeable and it's more obvious, and especially in that pattern, there isn't probably that many more flights going out now that are making a difference to create these chemtrails that there were, let's say, five years ago, 10 years ago. It just seems like it's. And then what concerns? What's really concerning are the people that are involved with this. You get a guy like John Brennan right here. I'm going to just play this video.
Video:Example is the array of technologies, often referred to collectively as geoengineering, that potentially could help reverse the warming effects of global climate change.
Video:One that has gained my personal attention is stratospheric aerosol injection, or SAI, a method of seeding the stratosphere with particles that can help reflect the sun's heat in much the same way that volcanic eruptions do.
Video:An SAI program could limit global temperature increases, reducing some risks associated with higher temperatures and providing the world economy additional time to transition from fossil fuels. This process is also relatively inexpensive the National Research Council estimates that a fully deployed SAI program would cost about $10 billion yearly. As promising as it may be, moving forward on SAI would also raise a number of challenges for our government and for the international community. On the technical side, greenhouse gas emission reductions would still have to accompany SAI to address other climate change effects, such as ocean acidification, because SAI alone would not remove greenhouse gases from the atmosphere. On the geopolitical side, the technology's potential to alter weather patterns and benefit certain regions of the world at the expense of other regions could trigger sharp opposition by some nations. Others might seize on SAI's benefits and back away from their commitment to carbon dioxide reductions and, as with other breakthrough technologies, global norms and standards are lacking to guide the deployment and implementation of SAI and other geoengineering initiatives.
Jim Lee:Also known as moral hazard.
James Egidio:Yes, here's the same guy, the Deep State dumpster diver, making his appearance in front of these people here and pontificating about the wonderful benefits of geoengineering.
Jim Lee:And here's a good question, while warning at the same time. Oh, by the way, geoengineering could lead to World War III. Google, that Is that true? There have been numerous peer reviewed and just journalists saying because it is a violation of the Environmental Modification Convention, which is a weather warfare ban of 1978, which was signed because of the damn CIA Right, the CIA and Operation Popeye, henry Kissinger, the CIA, the US Air Force and the US Navy with WC 130s and RF4, um Phantoms were basically cloud seeding the Ho Chi Minh Trail to try to make it impassable for the Viet Cong using silver iodide and lead iodide.
Jim Lee:That was, by definition, weather warfare over Vietnam and Laos. Now, when Jack Anderson made this public, seymour Hirsch wrote it in the New York Times. Seymour Hirsch is also the guy who blew the whistle on the story about the Nord Stream pipeline and how we probably blew it up. He was completely full of crap nowadays but back whenever he wrote about weather warfare, it literally changed the world overnight. The CIA had been able to get away with this.
Jim Lee:There were three congressional hearings. The secretary of defense said that he was not even aware that it was going on. Because Henry Kissinger, because the CIA, because top secret. They also were doing Project Nile Blue simultaneously, where they were creating the exact opposite. They were creating drought using cloud seeding Right. Their intention was to kill Castro's sugar crops by cloud seeding in the Gulf of Mexico before clouds could reach the Cuban island and to dry it up, and that was their entire purpose.
Jim Lee:So it is of no surprise to me whatsoever that the CIA would be once again talking about tinkering with the weather, let alone on a global scale, let alone that the Iranians had. The Brigadier General from Iran said that Israel and other surrounding countries were stealing Iran's clouds. He said this in 2018. In 2010 and 2011, president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad from Iran said that Europe was stealing Iran's rain. So the idea that weather warfare even though banned in 1978, it couldn't possibly be going on today is a farce because there is no way to catch somebody doing it. So that's why the little evil grin just in the corner of his mouth you have to watch it very carefully when he says could trigger geopolitical problems. We strutting that out.
James Egidio:It's just really interesting that you have these, the people that are involved with all this, like you have Brennan now right, you also on your website, indicated this web and the global network of solar geoengineering funding, and of course, Bill Gates is in there. And there he again. He pops up with geoengineering what the vaccines? So this guy's got his hands on everything. He's even got his hands in tech, which is a company where they have mosquitoes that are genetically modified, mosquitoes that inject.
Jim Lee:And buying farmland for to grow jet fuel biofuels. Is that what that's for?
James Egidio:That's one of the reasons. That's one of the reasons. So the intentions for these people are not good for we, the people, the populace.
Jim Lee:So when you look at that chart and you go children's investment fund and then there's FCA is right there, by Rasmussen, is FCA. I was talking about them earlier. They're formed for climate engineering assessment, open philanthropy. Harvard solar geoengineering research program is right at the center of all of those people who are involved. That's where David Keith's scope X program is being tested. It's being funded in part by Bill Gates. Right up the road from that is Gates ventures, that's venture capital LLC. They're the ones who invented what was called the Stratto shield. Conveniently. David Keith's program is called scope X. The vehicle is called the Stratto cruiser and this is what's called Pfizer. And right there next to Gates ventures is Pfizer. That's the fund for innovative climate engineering research. That is a honeypot of money that Bill Gates put together directly for funding authors to write and research about geoengineering. The gatekeepers of Bill Gates purse are David Keith and Ken Caldera. They're I don't know if they still are today, but they were at the time. It even shows right up there at top Sources David Keith funding solar geoengineering for 2008.
Jim Lee:The guys got his hands in everything and David Keith was very clear about it. He says if sitting across from Alan Robach, the guy with 25 reasons why we shouldn't do it. He says if we were to do what I think we should do, put a million tons a year of sulfur into the stratosphere. I admit that will kill many tens of thousands of people, but it's our hope that more people would be saved than would be killed. It's the same logic that, roger, that Robert Oppenheimer had, and most people haven't read, heard the entire transcript, heard the entire interview. They've only heard the I am become death and destroy her world. So they didn't hear. At the beginning of that interview was Oppenheimer said we were sitting around and the scientists and we came together and we said this war is just horrible and it was our belief that building the bomb would save more lives than would be lost if we didn't. It's that same kind of logic that, even though we know what we're doing will kill people, we're going to justify it because global warming is more dangerous than creating nuclear winter, which is officially what they're trying to do.
Jim Lee:I did a little number search for you just to put this into perspective 2004, approximately 23.8 million flights in 2004. 2019, 39.8 million, and the charges goes up as it goes. Just between 2004 and 2019, we have 16 million additional flights per year in that short span. Now, if you followed this chart out and you went back to 1996, when the word chemtrails, 1997, when the word chemtrails officially hit the internet, we'd be down around like 16, maybe 18 million flights per year.
Jim Lee:These are the types of things that people don't take into account. They're like this, just magically popped up out of nowhere. No, it's always been here. It's just going to get worse. In fact, their projections look this one up bbccom telescopes will be worthless by 2050. At this rate, if flights continue to grow annually at the rate they are right now, by 2050 there will be no stars. You will not be able to see them. That's the kind of stuff that made me Extremely passionate about putting an end to geoengineering in any form that has to do with our sky, because this is a deal breaker. This would give technocrats the ability to choose life and death anywhere in the world.
Jim Lee:As Brennan said, there will be winners and there will be losers, guess what generally speaking, in that same chart you just showed before about the funding, one of the things in there is called GeoMip. That's the geoengineering model intercomparison project. Geomip is a come is like the IPCC. It's right down there at the bottom by National Science Foundation, cornell Climate Engineering, national Science Foundation, geomip. Geomip is like the IPCC, where they take all of these different computer models and they put them together and Then they come up with the best guess scenario of what geoengineering would do to our world.
Jim Lee:And in almost all of these Ben Kravitz is a huge player in these studies on, specifically as a result, in reference to rainfall patterns, that in almost all of them the northern hemisphere gets wetter and the southern hemisphere gets drier. So let me translate this for you Lots of dead brown people, lots of wet white people. You cannot put it any other way. That's what generally happens in geoengineering and volcanic eruptions. That's why at the center of this chart is SRMGI Solar radiation management governance initiative. The governance part is deciding who gets to govern, who pulls the trigger, when, where and why.
James Egidio:Yeah, so what is the end goal of this? What's the what's the goal and objective of all this? Because obviously, if Gates is involved in Brennan's involved and all these people are involved, it can't be good right.
Jim Lee:Right, there is open society foundation, that's George Soros. The list goes on. Soros was talking about Sir David, so and so, who said he had a great geoengineering idea to stop Arctic air from mixing with our air, and Listening to him speak at a time was like listening to a Joe Biden speech. It was just like he's with the with the it's. So they did geoengineering with the. I do.
Jim Lee:I had never heard actually call me ignorant, like I don't let you know, heard about George Soros. I never actually went out and looked for a thing till he said something about geoengineering. I was like alright, I got to actually hear this with my own ears and I found the original video of him saying it. At the time he said it and played it on my channel. We were all just sitting there. This is the boogie man. Every year, we were all just in there. This is the boogie man Everybody's talking about. Turns out, his son is more claims to be more of a political, more of a political activist than his dad ever was. I imagine him throwing money at geoengineering as we're talking right now. Oh yeah.
James Egidio:He's got two sons, alex and I. Can't remember the other one's name, but he's got 150. Soros has 150 nonprofits and a lot of them have to do with part of it. I know the open society has to do with illegal immigration. They're just bringing in illegals by the droves because these people they're coming in with cell phones. Their bellies are full. They got all kinds of designer gear on. These people are not coming in by walking here and that clean. If you're walking the and crossing the border for days, you're going to be pretty haggard.
Jim Lee:It's all part of the technocrat agenda. One of the, the stated purposes, the, the, the. The arc of this is that they went from being the technocracy movement of the third 1930s to the New world Federalists in the 1960s, 70s, 80s, and they literally said Universal disarmament by law. Only the United Nations would have weapons right no borders, and the list goes on.
Jim Lee:If you look at the charter that the technocrats laid out, it's everything everybody's complaining about all the time. And then when they're surprised when they realize, oh wait, while we're calling it the world economic forum or Davos, or the IPCC or the WHO, they're all in on the same there. As George Carlin put it, it's a big club and you ain't in it and they're called the tech technocracy is their modus operandi.
Jim Lee:Yeah so as long as you you miss that part, nothing else makes sense. But once you understand that part that in order to control all of the people through a single portal, it's easier if you dissolve national borders, if you dissolve national sovereignty, then you can force everything down people's throats like they did during the lockdowns. And now they're talking about climate Pandemics. Have you heard this one? Yeah, oh, absolutely. That climate change is going to bring the human Insect interface closer together and that Crimean hemorrhagic fever is going to be pushed into human populations Because climate change, because migration of insects and disease factors. So there's all this conversation now of climate pandemics and climate lockdowns and all of this. In my personal opinion, if you want to get to the big agenda of this, you have these climate clocks which are counting down to 2029. You have agenda 2030 already in place. You have the COP 21 Paris climate accords, which don't really say to stop global warming. They say limit global warming to 1.5 degrees Celsius. Interestingly enough, that's the same number that they were shooting for back in the early 1900s when they said we want to melt the North Pole to get to the oil and gas. How much would we need to raise the temperature of the planet in order to get to the oil and gas in the Arctic. 1.5 degrees Celsius, so for longer than that. Because Jules Verne wrote about it in 1880, making a cannon large enough to tilt the Earth's axis. Nathaniel can't remember his name right now wrote a paper about making basically huge turboprops in the ocean To take Pacific Ocean water and shuttle it up into the North Pole to melt the ice in the North Pole. Gordowski and Company, two Russians, talked about putting a potassium metal needles into space to create an artificial ionosphere that would focus sunlight and melt the poles. Oh wait, we did that. It was the Westford Needle Project, where the United States Air Force dumped 480 million dipole antennas, little needles, into space. Some of them are still up there, most of them are in the North Pole.
Jim Lee:Adamized the Arctic by Julian Huxley from UNESCO. Let's use atom bombs to melt the North Pole. Oh wait, we did that too. It's pure insanity if you actually start to learn history about all this. So for at least 60, 70 years the plan was to melt the Arctic. And then along comes John F Kennedy and a paper called Restoring the Quality of Our Environment. And then suddenly there's these two camps that are now at war. One camp still wants to melt the Arctic to get to that oil and gas. They call it the New Cold War. If you Google that term in quotes New Cold War You'll hear about how Russia and America are fighting over drilling rights in the Arctic. Right now We've already fracked all of the North Slope of Alaska. Polar bears my ass. They talk out of one side of their mouth about saving the world from global warming. Meanwhile they're doing everything they can to frack every square inch of the North Pole.
James Egidio:And they're flying in their jets and they want everybody else to stop.
Jim Lee:Also back to what we talked about earlier troposphere, stratosphere. The stratosphere, the tropopause, is not at the same height everywhere around the globe. It's lower. In the Arctic it can be as low as 28,000 to 30,000 feet over the Arctic, even as close as Alberta, canada. Once you get to that latitude you're talking about, it could be 10,000 feet lower. So suddenly planes that were flying in the troposphere are flying in the stratosphere and virtually every private jet that you go on ADSBEXCHANGECOM and you track flights, they're pink. They're highlighted pink because they're flying above 40,000 feet, no matter where they are on the globe. So the private jets are flying in the stratosphere, they're flying above the tropopause.
James Egidio:Oh, they are.
Jim Lee:Yeah, go look right now. Promise you, it doesn't matter that me and you are live right now. Whenever you watch this. If you watch this a year from today, I'm going to tell you right now. Go to globe ADSBEXCHANGECOM. Look at the pink little private planes and they will be flying in the stratosphere Because that's what the Davos crew is doing.
James Egidio:So they're flying 10,000 feet higher than a commercial jet, then which?
Jim Lee:is very that's right, that's right, that's a fact, jesus.
James Egidio:I know just recently there was a bill that was passed called NHHB1700 the Clean Atmosphere Preservation Act. Let's just talk about that for a couple of minutes here. What's that all about?
Jim Lee:I'm going to actually check on that real quick, because that was in New Hampshire, by the way. Yeah, but I'm not sure that it's actually passed. That's why I'm checking.
James Egidio:Oh, okay, you want to fact check it.
Jim Lee:Yeah, we're going to look at it right now. Alright, so let's go over here, come back. There's two different pages for this that I have in my bookmarks, excuse me. Report File Status. That's the house website and it really sucks.
Jim Lee:Next, last hearing was on the 22nd of January, so they didn't Okay. So this is the last update I got. Yeah, the last update that I got was Let me see if it's on the other one NHB1700, not 1799. Did it twice. That should be it. Yeah, it still says Action Committee Report Inexpedient to legislation 130, vote 16-3, regular calendar. So it has been sent to a working committee. They are From the inside. What I've been told is that the chairman of the committee is in favor of passing this legislation, but it still has to go to the New Hampshire House for an up or down vote. Last I heard Kelley Patenza. Representative Kelley Patenza was saying that they're going to rewrite the legislation. I spoke with representative Jason Gerhardt on the telephone after the first hearing public hearing and I actually we were talking about this before we went live I literally did a three hour 30 minute breakdown, football commentator style pause foul on the plate face mask. They should have said this, anyway. So I did a play by play on the whole thing.
Jim Lee:On the hearing itself and Jason literally said I just got done watching the part where you ripped me to shreds and I was like don't take it personal. And he's like no, I'm not Dude, I'm a freaking carpenter. I'm like and I'm a dude who, my dad, owns a trailer park. So I was a carpenter when I was like seven years old, make the carpentry pull them in an electric Cutting a lot of grass, don't take it personal. And we had a great conversation and they went back into the second hearing and really changed a lot in my personal opinion.
James Egidio:So what are they looking to do, though? What's the whole crux of it?
Jim Lee:The crux of it was that Kelly made a big boo and said no, I'm not talking about contrails or jet fuel at all. I'm talking about geoengineering intentional spraying with pumps and pipes. And that is straight from Dane Wiginton fairy tale land. That is where people fail miserably. Let's be realistic. David Keith, when asked by Bill Gates how many planes do I need to? And Brennan for that matter said 10 billion a year. Right, you heard it. That number comes from the Aurora Flight Sciences report by David Keith, funded by Bill Gates, to come up with an estimate of how much it would cost to geoengineer the planet. His estimate was 130 F-15 fighter jets, 24 KC-135 refueling planes or as few as 14 747-400s.
James Egidio:Do you believe these people, though? Do you believe what Gates is saying?
Jim Lee:I believe in numbers. Okay, like numbers, don't lie, do you believe what?
Jim Lee:he says no, gates didn't say this. A bunch of nerds who were literally trying to get a contract to build the planes, to modify planes, to actually spray the chemicals. Yeah, they're in it for the money. Don't get it twisted, follow the money. This wasn't even something that was televised, publicized. This was literally a report done as a cost analysis of geoengineering, and there have been multiple sentences. They've talked about even using blimps. Bill Gates' Stratoshield was literally a blimp that would pull a hose up to the stratosphere so they could pump sulfur directly from the ground through a fire hose that was lofted by a balloon. So there have been many different ideas. But the point I'm trying to make here is, if they're saying that they could do it with as few as 14 planes, at a max 160 planes, let's just triple it. Okay, let's say 600 planes. Let's say they modified 600 planes and kitted them out with special pump sprites, sprayers.
Jim Lee:The whole internal fuselage is nothing but one big container of the five chemicals. You can nail it down to five chemicals Sulfur, aluminum, titanium, diamond dust and calcium carbonate. Those are the five prominent chemicals that have been in every single geoengineering Stratasor aerosol injection study ever written. Because I've read most of them. I have 35 of them that are specifically just about adding sulfur to jet-fuel tanks. Just the geo engineer. Just 30, 35, just modified the fuel sulfur content and we could geo engineer without having to build any new planes at all. But if you look at this report and you take it at face value and you say, all right, ten full hat on.
Jim Lee:Cia did it before. They did it in Vietnam, they did it in Cuba. Cia blew up the Chernobyl reactor because it was powering the Russian Duga 3 woodpecker, which was the OG ionospheric heater which was responsible for the coldest winter on record in 1983. That killed 129 people in America. And then, conveniently, in 1986 the Chernobyl reactor blew up and the Duga 3 woodpecker stopped working. In my opinion it was the CIA. They did a HBO special about it. I said, nah, more likely the CIA blew it up because of weather warfare. Guess what? The Russian government came out and said publicly after the HBO thing this was American propaganda. The CIA destroyed the Chernobyl nuclear reactor.
Jim Lee:I was like you can't make this stuff up, like I just gut check. You know what I mean. That's what my gut tells me. That's how covert ops work.
Jim Lee:Who's the likely candidate if there are white unmarked planes flying in the sky doing geo engineering. It's the CIA, yeah, because national security. Even so, we're talking about at most 600 let's be more than generous a thousand. I'll give you a thousand specialized planes. I'm not talking about Southwest Airlines and Air Abu Dhabi and because I track every flight I see come out over my house for like better part of ten years and, unlike what most people and I've heard this from a lot of people they say, I'm seeing planes that are spraying and I can't find them on flight radar 24 and I'm like did you check ADSB exchange? Did you check spyglass? Did you just check air toy flight radar? How many did you check, because I can check them all same time? Do they check out or do they just? I have yet twice in my life have I seen a plane dumping out a bunch of chemicals out as butt in that we're not on a flight tracker twice, yeah.
James Egidio:So that's my real, that's my own personal perspective to me it seems like they're just taking an old technology which is basically and it's a more of a sophisticated technology is crop dusting. Basically, it's cropped it is crop dusting. It's crop dusting is what it is, but it's on a massive scale. But and I don't think the intentions are good, because I can honestly tell you from a personal level I don't I never felt good after those skies receded like that with those chemicals.
Jim Lee:Well, I named all the chemicals that are coming out of the back yeah, that exhaust that would make anybody feel horrible if you got it in a strong enough amount. Sure? The real question that I told the people in New Hampshire and I told you, car and in car, when I interviewed them at the weather modification conference at the American meteorological Society in Austin, texas, in 2018, you car in car is the National Corporation for Atmospheric Research, so the top weather modification college, if you will, in the world. And they're in Boulder, colorado, and I said to them is there a rain sampling network? And the guy cut me off. He's, of course there is.
Jim Lee:We tend to sample, as that tests the chemicals in the rain, and the dude behind the table flushed red and then looked at his partner oh s word, oh snap. And I said because I would like to build that. I want to build a climate viewer for your backyard that in real time does single particle mass spectrometry on the chemicals that are falling in the rain, so that I can rest assured ago, okay, yes, they're spraying all these nanoparticles out. Yes, it's making clouds, but at least the air I'm breathing and the rain that's falling down here isn't as bad as I think, or is it way worse than I think?
James Egidio:yeah, because this stuff has got landing on crops too right, your crop is?
Jim Lee:not organic. That's the end argument. How can you have an organic crop if it's literally being coated in all of these nanoparticles? By the way, even the EPA air quality index and the aerosol robotic network, nasa's aeronet, they don't test for nanoparticles. They only test down to a PM 2.5, so particulate matter of a 2.5 micron. So nanoparticles, they too expensive. We, we we're not gonna bother with that. We've never invented a network of sensors that can even test for these chemicals right so the only test.
Jim Lee:There are really expensive universities who were able to afford the equipment to do the testing, or the Air Force Research Lab or these sorts of entities. So what I've told them was if you want to get anywhere with this bill, you need to have the proof. That way you can prove liability, you can prove causation right if you can find the chemical signatures of jet exhaust, jet fuel or God forbid you find something even special or that wasn't supposed to be there at all. Now people have to ask the question where did it come from?
James Egidio:yeah, that's what Brooke Jackson, who's a Pfizer whistleblower, along with Warner Mendenhall, who I interviewed it in a few months ago. We're talking about just that.
Jim Lee:What you're saying is causation is proving cause that it there was the hardest thing in the world to prove it is.
James Egidio:It is, and this is the reason why a lot of these big pharma companies are not being held liable, for that very reason, and it's so funny you mentioned that thing about the nuclear reactors just recently. I don't feel familiar with Greg Reese, but he reports for Info Wars. Yeah, he was just doing a report one of his quick videos on Victoria Nuland mentioning about bombing a reactor and blaming it on Russia. They're all part of this Davos group and the World Economic Forum the all these people are, so there's this like just close network of people that are all working together on this. And who pays for this in the end? That's my other question to you in the end, who pays?
Jim Lee:for all. This wasn't a David David Axelrod, obama's spokesman, that said never let a good, a good crisis go to waste. Go to waste, yeah, so that's disaster capitalism 101. Yeah, you create the problem and then you offer the solution problem reaction solution. In the infosec world, it's very similar. So if there aren't problems with the network, you're out of a job, right. If there aren't problems geopolitically, why do we need a CIA? Right, so they create the problems, right? It's always been that way. It always will be that way as long as we continue to fall for it operation MK ultra.
James Egidio:These are all projects that were financed and operated through the CIA.
Jim Lee:Iran was a had a democratically elected president and the CIA funded riots to overthrow that democratically elected president to install their own president. Okay, and then when the people figured out that the president that was installed by the CIA was selling out their oil to Americans, they promptly overthrew his ass and we ended up with the IA tola coal mani chanting death to America. And you wonder why, if you don't know the history of the CIA playing democracy checkers around the world and fake riots? Imagine January 6, except in third world countries all over the planet. Right, you got agent provocateurs on the street saying hey bro, what's that? Is that a you haul over there filled with bricks? Why don't we all go get bricks and go throw right? You, you go first. Right it's.
Jim Lee:People are so easily led and are yeah, that that's the main problem. So the same is true with this whole climate change agenda and geoengineering. Geoengineering, weather modification, ionosphere heating, cloud ionization, steering lasers with lightning bolts, chemtrails. They don't give a damn about your political beliefs. They don't care about your religion. No, it does not matter. No, it has nothing to do with this discussion.
Jim Lee:That's right because guess what, with you, black, brown, white, purple, it don't matter. Now we're all equally screwed if we don't get our feces consolidated and start to understand this problem and understand the terminology, the technology and have a will to fight back. And I say fight attack ideas, not people. This is not a let's go out and beat up Bill Gates. No, let's beat him with better ideas and let's prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that what we believe we see is actually real. Believe none of what you hear in half of what that includes everything I just said. That's guess what. I've been doing this for 15 years, but the day we all agree is the day we could all be wrong that's right so.
Jim Lee:I I constantly fight confirmation bias. I go and I go straight to the naysayers and haters and the trolls of the internet and I say hey, when I spoke at the EPA and the EPA pollution hearing on jet air, aircraft pollution, I took my speech and I literally went to meta bunk org, which is Mick West's contrail science fame, top debunker of chemtrails in the world, and I posted the entire transcript right there. And then I went to the gang stalkers of Facebook chemtrail page and I posted it there too simultaneously. And I said to both groups come at me, bro, you claim to be debunkers? Debunk one sentence, I'll do you one better. Debunk one word in my transcript. Yeah, ad hominem, and you're doing this for fame, you're doing this for money. No, I said no, thanks guys. Debunk anything in this paper crickets.
Jim Lee:I went up to Washington DC so confident because I had broken through that mold where I no longer was bound to the ten full hat region. I wasn't bound to the only science narrative. I was riding that fit so well that neither side could say anything wrong about what I was saying. And when I gave that speech I came back home. My wife's like how to go? I was like freaking great. It's gonna take people three to five years to figure out what the hell I just said, but it was awesome.
Jim Lee:That was in 2015 yeah, and I'm still repeating the same stuff and people still haven't figured it out. But I've had more than a hundred scientists reach out to me via email who seen that transcript and seen me speaking on c-span and we're like how the hell did you know this in 2015?
Jim Lee:yeah like we literally had. We were just coming out with studies in 2018, 2019, confirming some of the stuff you were saying then. So I'm just waiting for the world to catch up on this one, and I've taken a lot of flak over the years from opposition on this, but I maintain that both things can be true. You can have the CIA secretly geoengineering the planet, and that does not mean that every single plane in the sky is intentionally pumping, piping, spraying chemicals right. Part of its atmospheric effects, part of its pollution. They are using that pollution for a climate agenda.
Jim Lee:Carbon taxes, carbon credits if they can get the mixture just right, they can cool by day, not by night. They can claim carbon credits instead of being carbon taxed out of the sky. So that's really what the airliners agenda is. It's about that dollar. If you always follow the money you go back to. What's the modus? What's the intent here? The intention is they call it climate mitigation, but really they're trying to make the Paris climate accord people happy by saying we've offset the co2 coming out of planes by making clouds during the day that cool the planet and we've also done serious cloud thinning or used AI to avoid ice super saturated regions so that we don't create clouds at night, so we have starry nights. Guess what I've been seeing for the last five years around my house and had numerous people from all over the globe tell me starts out early morning, planes taking off. By mid noon whole sky is cloudy and then, magically, nightfall.
Jim Lee:I can see the stars again right if you're experiencing this, then you get what I'm talking about oh yeah this is what they say they want to do and this is what I'm observing happening yeah, and we're paying for it.
James Egidio:The taxpayers are paying for all this, because I know gates. They've taken money out of his pocket to pay for all this oh no, anything they do, they, they always get their money back yeah, they do?
Jim Lee:they do. That's a guarantee. But since climate change has been declared a national emergency, that is an existential threat because our borders could be overrun from by climate. Refugees like those people that are flooding our southern border are literally fleeing climate change not just the tyrants and dictators and poor living conditions. To try to spin that as if they're running from climate change is laughable if it weren't so nefarious yeah, yeah, I think you have to blame everything on climate change.
James Egidio:Now that and COVID.
Jim Lee:I got COVID Friday. I literally went to work sick. I went to faster care. They stuck a swab up my nose. What before I could, ninja, chop it out of their hand? And then next thing I know they're sliding a laptop in the room with a doctor on. You tested positive for COVID. I was like I guess I get to go home from work, sleep it off. But yeah, it was body aches. That was about it. I'm already over it yeah throw. It's a little rough still, but yeah we'll live.
James Egidio:Jim Lee, thank you so much for coming on to the medical truth podcast, and I want to get you on again. We could talk about some other things that I discovered on your website in regard to direct energy weapons and harp and all that. There's a lot to talk about, so I'd like to definitely get you on very soon again. Yeah, we should talk about the Havana syndrome yeah, let's do that because that's medically related.
James Egidio:Let's do it. Yeah, again, thank you so much for joining me for this episode of the medical truth podcast. I really appreciate it.
Jim Lee:I appreciate the invite and I look forward to sharing this with all my all the climate viewers everywhere, thanks, buddy thanks for listening to the medical truth podcast.
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